I’m not even defending the dude, really. I’ve long been a believer in the idea of “Hate begets hate”, that’s kinda where I’m coming from here.
Yeah fair enough I was just reacting to the fact that, like, you’re a thoughtful, reasonable person and he made an argument that held about as much water as a soft felt taco shell
and like, I get the instinctive reaction to be like “seriously though, blanket statements are fucked up” but like I was just expecting more of a “his argument was stupid, but here’s a good argument for why not to say that kind of thing” I guess
Also I mean a lot of the time I overcompensate for my instinctive wince at “All men” due to my own gender, so that might have also been at play
See, that makes me kinda sad. You are also a thoughtful, reasonable person. You don’t wanna hurt anyone, and are genuinely disgusted by the inequity in our world.
When you wince at those “all men” statements — it’s because they hurt you. YOU are not the target of that statement, but are included under it anyway! YOU do not deserve to feel that way! It’s given you a guilt complex that you absolutely don’t have to carry with you. That is a level of unfair that kinda makes me want to cry.
That’s why I don’t like this form of discourse! Because i know a lot of good people like you who are made to feel like shit for absolutely no reason at all.
I mean, I wince because I feel like “hey, I’m not like that” to be sure but also, really to be fair, it does make me step back and take a look at my own behaviors and attitudes to see if I’ve done anything that should include me in that.
That’s a good thing, then. Examining our own behavior is sometimes a really tough thing to do, and even asking someone to do that can evoke a negative response — even if you were good natured with the request.
I think I might just be naive in a lot of ways. I truly believe it is possible to have an open, civilized dialogue … it’s just a matter of calming all involved down enough so an actual discussion take place. It’s an issue that definitely breeds passion on both sides, and that’s a hard nut to crack.
You aren’t an asshole! The fact we managed to have a civil discussion proves that. We have differing viewpoints and aren’t clawing eyes out. WE ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE.
Wow, I’ve never been a good example before. This is exciting! XD
I’m usually a terrible example, especially to young children lol
I actually think it is important to set a bad example for young children, so both of us are doing a great service when we’re being good OR bad. XD
Woo! Remember kids, starting your drinking career in elementary school is a fun way to pass the time!
Drop out of college and go work for a punk band! Start a MEME blog! SHOP AT K-MART!!!
Woah hey that last one is a bit too far don’t you think next thing you know we’ll be encouraging kids to eat at Denny’s and like I’m terrible but there’s some things even I won’t stoop to
Denny’s is a dangerous menace … *eyes it shiftily*